Wonder Woman 1984

  • États-Unis Wonder Woman 1984 (plus)
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États-Unis, 2020, 151 min (alternative 145 min)

Résumés(1)

Direction les années 1980 où Diana Prince, alias Wonder Woman, doit faire face à deux nouveaux ennemis redoutables : Max Lord et Cheetah. (Warner Bros. Home Ent. FR)

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POMO 

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français Les scénaristes avaient de bonnes intentions avec la motivation à double tranchant de « réaliser n'importe quel souhait ». Il était possible de construire une histoire dense sur cette idée. Cela ne me dérangeait même pas d'attendre 80 minutes avant la première scène d'action après celle d'ouverture. Quand il y a quelque chose à regarder et que c'est bien réalisé, comme Hollywood sait le faire (ce qui était rare en 2020), je suis heureux d'attendre. Cependant, en tant qu'ensemble assez long, WW84 est dramatiquement dispersé, parfois trop lent et parfois trop rapide, et surtout, le traitement de ce thème est naïvement parodique. Je donne tout de même trois étoiles du fait de mon faible pour Gal Gadot, que je préfère encore plus que mon Avenger préféré. Et aussi pour Zimmer, qui est au sommet ici. C'est génial et magnifique, je l'écoute tous les jours et je réécoute certains morceaux 2-3 fois de suite. ()

Lima 

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anglais The worst comic book movie from both DC and Marvel. The previous episode was very good, but this… this is even more annoying than the tiny green Alzák, Babiš, the communists and Marek Ztracený's songs all put together :o) ()

MrHlad 

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anglais If I never saw another Patty Jenkins movie in my life, I wouldn't mind at all. Not that I was looking forward to her Wonder Woman 1984 or was a big fan of the first film, but those two and a half hours with Gal Gadot went by as fast as, say, the Thirty Years War. And I'm convinced it's the fault of a director who just can't handle blockbusters and action movies. WW1984 has an extremely excessive runtime and unfortunately most of it is completely pointless filler. The 1980s setting didn't make much sense to me, the film could have been set almost any time before Batman vs. Superman. Virtually nothing happens, and when the action does come, it's mediocre at best. The only lighter moments are the romantic scenes where the film can lean on Chris Pine. But the biggest problem I see is that Jenkins clearly wanted to make something that would be reminiscent of the first and second Superman. That is, a naive comic book movie with a simple plot, easily distinguishable good and evil, and lots of hope and optimism. I don't disagree. It's just that the end result is more like Superman 3 and 4, which really aren't good movies. Overall, Wonder Woman 1984 doesn't feel like a big 2020 movie, but like something that was made two years before the first Iron Man, when Hollywood still didn't really know how to handle comic book heroes and heroines and the whole superhero genre was still in search of a new direction. And no, I don't mean that as praise for the old-school approach. Jenkins simply made not an old-school movie, but a movie that feels extremely old. Aside from the nice costumes and production design, I don't really know what to praise about it or why I should recommend it to anyone. ()

EvilPhoEniX 

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anglais I was expecting worse based on the tragic reviews, but it's not that bad. The best part is at the very beginning, with the Olympic tournament of the Amazons, and it is captivating. Then the pace slows down significantly, and there is surprisingly little action for a comic book film, and even when it happens, it's not very impressive. But I enjoyed the idea of granting wishes, it kept me from getting bored, though Pedro Pascal failed to impress me with his acting for the first time. Had I seen it at the cinema, I would have left disappointed, but I watched it at home and it turned out to be okay. Story***, Action***, Humor**, Violence>No, Entertainment***, Music*****, Visual****, Atmosphere***, Tension***. 5.5/10. ()

novoten 

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anglais The attempt to repeat the same procedure in a different retro era didn't turn out well. Whether the main scriptwriter of the first installment, Allan Heinberg, voluntarily left to make TV series or had a falling out with the other creators, his name is no longer involved in the sequel, and it shows. The ingredients are the same, but this time that central thread that turned an adventure fairy tale into a legendary spectacle has gone missing – or at least it's been tampered with. I won't lie, I appreciated the old-fashioned first half, which behaves at times like Richard Donner's Superman, and at times like B movies from the same era (which I mean in a good way). This time as well there are no unnecessary interconnected universes established; instead, they follow the path of the comics in a direction that was aimed at decades ago, both in print and on celluloid. And most of the time, it even works in terms of building upon the wartime antics, because if anyone has almost atomic chemistry, it's Gal Gadot and Chris Pine. How you get past the fact that someone is appearing in a foreign body and how that body is then treated remains bittersweet, awkward, but still genuine and believable in terms of romance, where I believed every word and shed more than a tear during any tearful statements like "I will never love again." But that's where the biggest positives end, and I'm not sure about the rest. I have no problem with the nature and direction of the other characters, since it falls within the visual tradition, but I don't know why Pedro Pascal is being forced into Rock Me Amadeus mode, and why there seems to be about thirty minutes too much of him in the plot, more than would have been necessary for a rich portrayal of his motivation. Similarly, the frequent "educating" of the viewer is glaringly obvious, and there could have been fewer moral lessons on gender or consent, not just because they don't fit the genre but also because they are almost clumsily served directly to the camera. And finally, the most unforgivable aspect: the final showdown and its outcome is the weakest part of the film, as if it were present only to bid farewell to the plot in any way necessary. The action is banal and almost invisible due to darkness, the final moral lesson is illogical, the costumes and masks don't work at all, and most importantly, by that point, it has already extended past three hours in duration; as much as I enjoyed the film, I can't understand this decision to leave everything uncut. Patty Jenkins has fallen victim to megalomania syndrome, and it cost Wonder Woman a satisfying conclusion to the trilogy. ()

3DD!3 

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anglais I was looking forward to a bold, purely female comic book movie with a strong heroine, fearless in her emancipation from the pernicious Justice League. But I was seriously disappointed. I don’t mind so much the weird way they keep hitting each other, or how naively (= eighties style) Wonder Woman is approached; it’s the message that bothers me. It’s been a long time since I saw such a dumb, illogical story offending women, men, children and human intelligence in general. The lesson is literally terrifying - dreams are bad, make good with what you already have - and seriously modern. Gal Gadot still looks fabulous and Pine strangely enjoys being in his role. Wiig isn’t comfortable in her role in any position and, after his praise-worthy performance in The Mandalorian, poor old Pedro Pascal really hits bottom in his role of megalomaniacal loser who (doesn’t) want to be with his son. And it looks like Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is way up shit creek, lacking the proverbial paddle in the hands of Patty Jenkins. P.S. The explanation of Linda Carter’s tiny cameo is really annoying. Now the Yanks have their very own Carry On Doctor. ()

NinadeL 

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anglais Wonder Woman 84 is a generational film, it's not simplified, and it's not straightforward. Certain ideas or the performances of individuals may occasionally stutter, but as a whole, it's a distinctive experience. The situation in comics in 1984 was very complicated, the entire DC Universe was due for a major reboot. Having been born in 1971, director Patty Jenkins is very nostalgic about the era, forgetting that superhero comics were not nearly the global phenomenon they are today, making her film less accessible to certain potential markets. The same is true for the general realities of this decade, from which WW84 picks only a certain part. It's not as clear-cut as the first Wonder Woman, which was set in a clear escalating conflict. The second film lacks the comparatively breathtaking climax that was Wonder Woman's triumph in No Man's Land. It took a very long time for classic superheroes to be domesticated in the comics even in the post-war world, and for the newly introduced heroes in the movies, the same path has to be followed, and while it may be different, that doesn't mean it will be any less rough. It's irrelevant that the film Wonder Woman first fought in the trenches of World War I, though in the comic books Wonder Woman wasn't born until the fight against Nazism. Never mind that the film sequel fetishizes an era irrelevant to the comic book Wonder Woman, rewriting her story to best illustrate today's view of her role in society while dealing with the trauma of Americans today. Importantly, this icon of the 20th century, the essence of femininity in all its forms, continues to inspire. Because that is her main message. At heart, Diana of Themyscira is not an ordinary kid from Kansas or a millionaire orphan, Diana is an ambassador of peace in a world of people whether in costume or in plain clothes. The year of repeated postponement of the premiere was very difficult - I was looking forward to the sequel and the eventual film surprised me a lot. I'll be happy if there's a third film. I'd definitely go watch it again in the IMAX, preferably both films. ()

Kaka 

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anglais Gal Gadot's natural femininity and old world elegance and refinement and the opening triathlon are about all you should (not) see Wonder Woman 1984 for, and I'm sure some editing of the top moments (about 3-4) will be quite enough. The rest is merely tired screenwriting filler that doesn't honor the main character's abilities and her character as such, nor the laws of physics, nor, in fact, any plot cohesion so that you can watch it in peace without rolling your eyes in disbelief. ()

D.Moore 

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anglais If it’s going to be 1984, then with everything that comes along with it, was probably said by Patty Jenkins et al., and the second Wonder Woman was written and filmed exactly as it would have looked 37 years ago. That is, with a fairy-tale plot, in which there is also the threat of the Cold War and the victory of the most important human values, with the main (semi) divine protagonist, who distributes smiles in all directions, eliminates villains without killing (do not expect the sword and shield, Diana's only weapon is a lasso) and she is tormented by unhappy love, with a super-exaggerated and amusing villain whose plan evokes a smile, and with only a few action scenes. But we don't have to wait long for them, as some people complain, because what's between them is entertainment. I really like this concept. Gal Gadot clearly enjoys her relaxed position, absolutely great is Pedro Pascal, who plays Max Lord in exactly the same way Gene Hackman played Lex Luthor, Chris Pine has comedic talent and is still amazed by everything, and hats off to Kristen Wiig, whose Barbara, on the other hand, was obviously inspired by Selina/Catwoman, played by Michelle Pfeiffer, and who gradually transforms without any effects, only thanks to her acting and increasingly animalistic costumes. In the end, I have to do something I haven't done in a long time, and that is to praise the music of Hans Zimmer, who mixes a Williams orchestra full of jubilant Superman fanfares with Morricone romance, period synths and his typical drone (and the Lion King). ()

lamps 

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anglais Maybe if some day I watch the original Superman movies and the naive and colourful comic-book flicks from the 80s and 90s, I will be able to appreciate this one as beautifully nostalgic and intentionally campy trash, but right now, other than the massive naivete and the contrived retro atmosphere, I don’t see anything special that would leave me flabbergasted in the good sense of the word; maybe only the celebrated parting of the love-birds, which some day may be seen as the most bizarre farewell of this mad 2020. Otherwise, I wonder how long Gal Gadot can keep on compensating her lack of acting talent with her inimitable beauty – in roles like this, it will still take some time. 50% ()

Goldbeater 

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français Dans Wonder Woman 1984, il y a les parties qui, au mieux, atteignent juste la moyenne du genre et puis les parties réductrices qui volent au ras des pâquerettes et empilent cliché sur cliché. Tous les éléments douteux qui seraient pardonnables, par exemple, pour le Superman de 1978 (vu qu’il date réellement de 1978 et qu’il était pionnier dans le genre des « films à BD » modernes) sont ici vendus par les créateurs comme un accessoire rétro-cool alors que ceux-ci n’ont fait que se reposer sur leurs lauriers en pondant un scénario à la noix. Je dirais que les scènes d’action sont l’aspect le plus faible du film. On s’était déjà rendu compte dans le premier volet que Patty Jenkins n’était pas capable de tourner de l’action et que, comme beaucoup d’autres, elle arrosait le tout d’effets spéciaux numériques peu naturels, mais ne mettre au total que quatre scènes d’action courtes et fades dans un énorme blockbuster de 151 minutes, c’est quand même bizarre. Et c’est peut-être justement pour ça que ça m’a moins énervé que dans le premier film. En gros, c’est un film totalement inintéressant à tous les niveaux qui a reçu cette année une attention médiatique largement exagérée par rapport à ce qu’il est réellement. ()

Stanislaus 

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anglais To be honest, given the widespread negative reactions, I was expecting a much bigger slap in the face from WW 84 that would have stabbed the DC universe in the ribs in a vicious way. Personally, I think that Diana's second adventure will strike a chord with most viewers, mainly because it's not so much a superhero movie as it is a sort of pseudo-philosophical rumination on human values, morals and foibles, but handled in an awkward to bizarre way. The old familiar "Be careful what you wish for!" runs through almost the entire plot, which unfortunately seems a bit indecisive and bumbling at times. But I was still carried away by the attractive audiovisuals in several scenes, like the romantic flyover over the fireworks or Diana's contemplation in the clouds. Chris Pine was hilariously enthusiastic about the new era, and Kristen Wiig was surprisingly not as out of place as I originally thought she might be – even so, her wild version was criminally underused. There's a blatant emphasis on "women power" throughout the film, which I certainly didn't mind, unlike the "mainly save the children" scenes. Hans Zimmer score is also a big asset in the film. In the end, I’m giving the film a weaker three stars, because I was really counting on a worse product. PS: The cameo with the original Wonder Woman was really cool, but weird at the same time! ()